Edi Campbell |
Today we kick off our RWW Interviews series with
a conversation between Elisa Gall and Edith (Edi) Campbell. Campbell is a
Reference/Instruction Librarian at Indiana State University. She has served as
the Indiana State Ambassador for USBBY and on the WNDB Walter Award Committee,
YALSA’s BFYA jury, and CYBILS Nonfiction Awards committee. She is a member of the 2018 Printz Award
committee and she works with a team to coordinate the annual We’re the People Summer Reading List. She blogs
at https://campbele.wordpress.com/ and can be found on Twitter at @CrazyQuilts. Thank you, Edi, for sharing
your insights with us!
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To many of us, you
are an online superhero. Can you share your origin story? How did you get
started blogging?
Super hero? No, I’m just a librarian doing her thing. There
are so many, many more librarians, publishers, editors, authors and
illustrators who have done this for such a long time! Their persistence has
made it that much easier for me to do what I do. Just imagine some of the
things I post that would have had serious consequences just a few decades ago.
Because of what they have stated, exposed, spoke and risked, those of us
working today are able to feel hopeful.
So, how did I get started?? I came into the library after
spending part of my career teaching Social Studies. I had actually been a
school librarian for a couple of years before I began blogging. I was looking
for a new technology to master and I was also thinking about so many librarians
and teachers who kept saying that they had a difficult time finding books by
African American authors. I thought that could be something to blog about. I
thought I could combine my interest in technology and in books to promote
literacy for African American teens. I immediately saw the need to also include
books for Latinx and my blog continued to become more and more inclusive.
What has changed
since?
I think several things have changed over the years. I’ve
tried different things over the years, some more interesting than others. I
think I blog to promote Native American authors, authors of color and their
books rather than to promote literacy and that’s probably because I’m not in a
school library any more. Much of the sharing I used to do on my blog is now
done on Facebook and Twitter and I think that brings up one major change in my
blog: I just don’t post as much as I used to. I think my posts fell off when I
was on BFYA and then the Walter Award Committee, and I’ve not really recovered
from that, not gotten back into the blogging routine. Next year, I’m on another
award committee so I’ll be back to blogging without talking about current books
that are eligible for that award.
Something else that has changed since I started would be
that other forms of social media have come about that have actually provided a
voice to marginalized people. This has been a huge development.
You’ve talked about
the importance of connecting with people with whom you disagree. How do you break
the echo chamber?
I have two Twitter accounts and two Facebook accounts and it
amazes me how many people I connect with that seem to share my same
perspectives. I’ve even reconnected with people from grade school and high
school and still I see little dissent on my FB feeds.
At this time when we’ll “unfriend” someone who says the
slightest thing with which we disagree, it seems that it takes a conscious
effort to connect with people of differing opinions. It’s following that person
who says something you don’t completely agree with or in ‘real life’ it’s
taking the risk of saying some things others may not agree with and being able
to listen to others’ reactions. I’m beginning to think that coming offline and
having those face to face connections is where we’re really going to build
robust communities. Online, where there is no chance to read body language or
facial expressions we tend to parse words while expecting nuanced
conversations. It’s easy to get caught up and misunderstood online.
I like what Ashley Hope Perez said a few weeks ago in giving
advice to people who want to be allies. She suggested using social media as a
tool for listening. Sometimes, just listening helps us grow more than thinking
we have to say something, especially if we’re listening to people outside the
echo chamber.
In all the work that
you do, what are you the most proud of?
This is going to feel like a punt, but I am most proud of my
children and this definitely includes my daughter in law. While I maintain that
they have become the awesome people that they are despite me, I am so very,
very proud that they are my children. I learn so much from them! They are truly
amazing people.
I take pride in being a librarian. While people claim
librarianship is dying, I find it to be a very vibrant and demanding profession
that requires me to keep learning, allows me to innovate services and provide
ways for me to make a difference for others.
Can you tell us about
the We’re the People list?
This is also something of which I’m quite proud! For the
past couple of years, I’ve been able to work with some of the most amazing
people in children’s literature (Tad Andracki, Sarah Park Dahlen, Sujei Lugo,
Lyn Miller-Lachmann, Nathalie Mvondo, Debbie Reese, Ed Spicer and Ebony
Elizabeth Thomas) to create summer reading lists for all ages of children. We
work together throughout the year to identify books written by authors of color
that are chapter books, picture books, middle grade, young adult and adult
crossover. We critically review each book so that our list contains books that
we would be proud to give any child.
We look for books from small and large publishers, as well
as self-published books. Intersectionality is extremely important as we look for
books that also include LGBT+ characters, those with disabilities and those
from a variety of socio-economic backgrounds. We want biographies as well as
sports books, speculative fiction and mysteries. We try to apply diversity in
every sense of the word. It’s a lot of work, but it’s good work.
How do you stay
motivated or promote self-care when facing frustration or pushback?
I don’t work alone. From the very beginning, I’ve been with
a network of people who are just amazing! The network has changed over the
years, but it’s always been there and I can always turn to them for clarity,
strategy or for a good laugh. Being surrounded by people of integrity is the
key to accomplishing most things in life, including remaining sane.
Balance is a critical part of self-care, but it can be
challenging when you earn your living by your passion; when you want to get
away from work, yet you want to read a book! I’ve only recently questioned
‘what am I doing for me?’ It helps to be healthy, to eat to live rather than
living to eat and to get out in nature as much as possible. I think celebrating
is an important part of this equation, but in equity work, it can seem like
there is so little to celebrate at times, but there are small successes and it
helps to stay positive to recognize them.
Who are people you
look to for advice and inspiration?
My family really takes a strong interest in what I do. My
children keep up with much of what I’m doing and we talk about many issues that
intersect with my passion, and with their passions, too. Talking to them,
getting a perspective from outside that echo chamber really helps. And the
inspiration I get from my daughter-in-law as well as my three children knows no
limits.
Children’s literature is an intersecting world. We have so
many differences within this community, but we have that common drive to get
good literature to our children and that really holds us together. I’ve
approached so many people for advice and rarely if ever have been turned away.
There are too many people in children’s literature who excel
at what they do to begin naming names, too many people who have shared wisdom
or advice with me and who inspire me.
What advice do you
have for others looking to do equity work in the world of libraries and youth
literature?
I’d say if you’re interested in doing equity work in
libraries and/or children’s literature, you should be clear about why you want
to do this work. If it’s about what you want to get and not what you want to
give, you may want to spend your efforts on something else.
I’d say understand that you’re joining a network of people
who are and have been entrenched in this work; build upon their knowledge. Know
that we’re reaching a point in time where those who are LGBT+, disabled, Native
American or people of color know who we are and what we want. We’re not looking
for missionaries to represent our interest. We need workers who honor the past
while creating a new future. I’d say forget patience, we’ve been patient too
long. Look back and fly forward.
- Elisa Gall